New Coppers often teamed with crap coppers. Guess what they learn?


Police in the United States receive less initial training than their counterparts in other rich countries—about five months in a classroom and another three or so months in the field, on average. Many European nations, meanwhile, have something more akin to police universities, which can take three or four years to complete. European countries also have national standards for various elements of a police officer’s job—such as how to search a car and when to use a baton. The U.S. does not.

The 18,000 police departments in the U.S. each have their own rules and requirements. But although police reform is a contentious subject, the inadequacy of the current training provides a rare point of relative consensus: “Police officers, police chiefs, and everyone agree that we do not get enough training in a myriad of fields,” Dennis Slocumb, the legislative director of the International Union of Police Associations, told me…

…Few American officers receive much education about the history of policing or the role of police in a democratic society. “The officer coming out of one of the European training programs, he’s much more likely to have a much broader perspective on what the job is, what your role is, what your society is like, how do you fit into it,” says David Harris, a law professor at the University of Pittsburgh. “Those things are just not really part of what’s going on in most American police-training programs.”…

New officers are often paired with field-training officers, but many of those officers learned the wrong techniques themselves, and are passing them along to their trainees. Derek Chauvin, who was convicted on Tuesday of murder, was acting as a field-training officer when he killed George Floyd. Kim Potter, who shouted “Taser! Taser! Taser!” before fatally shooting Daunte Wright with her pistol last week, was also acting as a field-training officer at the time.

I think you get the idea. It makes a great deal of sense [to me] that folks who are actually trained to be professionals, meeting recognized standards of behavior…will turn out to be police professionals more often than not. That might even be a more useful place to spend tax dollars than urban assault tanks. Or picking up the tab for defending cops who murder civilians.

4 thoughts on “New Coppers often teamed with crap coppers. Guess what they learn?

  1. nicknielsensc says:

    Then there’s this:
    > The warped American police mindset comes out even more clearly in a 2014 episode of the documentary series The Norden. The filmmakers take LAPD police captain Peter Whittingham on a tour of the Nordic countries to see what he thinks of those countries’ police departments. Whittingham is a Black immigrant from Jamaica, which provides at least some control on racism as a factor, and he gives every impression of being a decent person who honestly believes in the importance of good policing.

    But Whittingham is constantly shocked and disturbed by what he sees as the softness of Nordic policing culture. In Finland, he laughs when he learns that arrested persons are called “customers.” “We call them suspects,” he says. In Sweden, he is disturbed that police trainees are allowed to attend class in normal clothes, but also surprised at how long their training is. <

  2. LEO says:

    Video of police trainer teaching cops ‘how to kill’ resurfaces online amid rise in police brutality
    The video, which is originally from 2017, features ex-Army Ranger tuned police trainer Dave Grossman saying, “Killing is just not that big a deal.”
    Includes link to complete video (6:52)

  3. Untouchable says:

    “Years Before a Police Union Leader Was Raided by the FBI, Local Investigators Didn’t Pursue Allegations Against Him : City agencies were aware of misconduct claims against Sgt. Ed Mullins, the powerful leader of the NYPD’s sergeants union, but did not investigate. Years later, his home and union headquarters were raided by federal agents.”

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